About
One question,
asked sixty-three times
An initiative by Manifest Nirvana, hosted by Daniela Bomatter, inspired by Daniel Schmachtenberger’s talks about the Third Attractor.
The approach
How it works
01
The same opening
Nearly every conversation begins on one question: are you familiar with the term the third attractor, and how do you understand it in your own words? One question is prepared. Everything after it is improvised.
02
Deliberately different rooms
Guests come from governance and finance, ecology and regeneration, education, contemplative practice, art. They rarely share a vocabulary. What matters is not whether they agree, but what keeps returning across such different vantage points.
03
Read against each other
Once transcribed, the conversations are read as one corpus: where the voices converge, where they part, and the reading only one of them makes.
The host
Daniela Bomatter
A spiritual practitioner and cultural visionary who goes by the Evolutionary Nun.
She was a businesswoman until 2008, when meeting Andrew Cohen turned her toward spiritual work. The two co-founded Manifest Nirvana in 2019; since his death in March 2025 she has carried it on alone. She teaches, hosts dialogues and leads retreats.
Her work sits where evolutionary spirituality meets leadership and technology — the question of what kind of consciousness the next civilisation asks of us. She published The Viratya Myth Begins in 2025, and works from Tiruvannamalai, in southern India. She speaks at ICON 2026 on 31 May on co-creating the Third Attractor.
63 voices, so far
All conversations
Ken Wilber
Jonas Søvik
Manda Scott
Robert M. Ellis
Jenny Andersson
David Sloan Wilson
James B. Glattfelder
Ivo Mensch
Remzi Bajrami
John Bunzl
Bettina Wichers
Jeremy Johnson
No conversation in this series yet.
Resources
Where the term comes from
The conversations start from an idea that was not ours. These are the sources they answer to.
Toward a Third Attractor
A collaborative research agenda for a third attractor future — neither catastrophe nor dystopia — defined by wise collective decision-making, resilient governance and integrated systems for societal well-being. It lists individual and collective tasks, candidate governance and economic models, and links to aligned movements.
In Search of the Third Attractor, part one
Daniel Schmachtenberger in conversation with Rebel Wisdom, on the alternatives to societal collapse and to authoritarian control. The exchange sets out the exponential technological risks, and the creative potential alongside them, and asks what a viable third attractor would even look like.
In Search of the Third Attractor, part two
The second half of the same series. It asks whether humanity can navigate those risks without falling into collapse or authoritarianism, and how a desirable future might be reached through informed conversation and systemic reflection.