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From Meta-Crisis to Meta-Coherence: Listening to the call from the future.
These conversations explore a simple but profound question: What is trying to emerge through the crises of our time? Together with thinkers and practitioners from many different fields, I look for the deeper patterns, values, and capacities that are already taking shape across our world. My hope is that, by connecting these insights, we can begin to recognize the contours of a new attractor for humanity, one rooted in coherence, responsibility, and a genuinely life-affirming future.
The Third Attractor emerging through a return to place, relationship and the principles of living systems. We explore why a truly regenerative future requires more than new technologies and economic models: it asks us to transform how we think, collaborate and understand our place within the living world.
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A Really Regenerative Future
The Third Attractor emerging through a return to place, relationship and the principles of living systems. We explore why a truly regenerative future requires more than new technologies and economic models: it asks us to transform how we think, collaborate and understand our place within the living world.
Darwin Beyond Biology
What does it take to build a truly pro-social world? In this conversation, evolutionary biologist David Sloan Wilson brings Darwinian evolution into dialogue with the vision of the Third Attractor.
The Sapient Cosmos
What if consciousness is not produced by the universe, but is the ground from which the universe emerges? In this conversation, physicist and author James B. Glattfelder explores ideas from The Sapient Cosmos.
The Inner Science of World-making
How do we create a future that is neither collapse nor techno-utopia? In this rich and wide-ranging conversation, Daniela Bomatter speaks with Ivo Mensch about what it really means to co-create the Third Attractor.
Why we need Creditism
The End of Neoliberalism? How Creditism Changes Everything. In this thought-provoking video, we explore the concept of creditism and its potential to usher in a new era for humanity, one that moves beyond the limitations of neoliberalism.
One Policy. Every Country.At Once.
What if the world’s biggest problems aren’t caused by bad leaders, but by a system that forces every nation to compete instead of cooperate? In this conversation, John Bunzl, founder of Simpol (Simultaneous Policy), joins Daniela Bomatter to explore why climate change, AI governance, economic…
How Elders shape tomorrow
In this episode of Co-Creating the Third Attractor, Daniela Bomatter speaks with gerontologist and consciousness researcher Bettina Wichers about conscious aging, adult development, Integral Theory, transpersonal consciousness, and the role of elders in shaping the future of humanity.
A Gebserian Deep Dive
This conversation moves through Jean Gebser's account of integral consciousness, the idea that we are not advancing toward a future so much as being worked on by a time that is already present and already shaping us.
The Future can't be Engineered
What is the third attractor? Learn how to co-create this concept with others to shift your collaborative projects forward. This discussion explores the theory of the third attractor and how it functions within professional and creative partnerships.
Relational Beeing
Jon Freeman describes a vision of individual freedom that does not collapse into chaos, because it lives inside a relationship with what he calls the information field.
Consciousness is Weird
In this wide-ranging conversation, Peter Merry explores what it means to navigate our time of profound transition through an integral, evolutionary lens. Together we examine why chaos is not simply breakdown, but the fertile space where the future begins to emerge.
Our schools need a radical Shift
What if the future of humanity begins in the way we educate our children? In this inspiring conversation, educator and visionary Madhan Mohan shares how Arunachala Village School in rural South India has spent more than two decades reimagining education from the ground up.
Holacracy and the Metacrisis
Dennis Wittrock frames the third attractor through Daniel Schmachtenberger's landscape metaphor: a narrow ridge between collapse and authoritarian control. He argues that belief in a third path is itself a precondition for reaching it, since attitude and daily behavior compound over time.
The Importance of Arts
In this conversation, painter and teacher Jordan Wolfson explores the essential role of art in co-creating the Third Attractor. Drawing on Iain McGilchrist’s work, he describes our current crises as expressions of an overly dominant left hemisphere, shaped by control, utility, abstraction and…
Beyond Extraction
What if the greatest crisis of our time is not climate change itself, but the way we value the world? In this conversation, filmmaker and ecological restoration pioneer John D. Liu invites us to rethink the very foundations of our civilization.
We need new Politics
In this conversation, I speak with political scientist and integral thinker Elke Fein about what it would actually take to bring a new paradigm into politics.
Good Karma Effect
Amy Churchouse brings a refreshing blend of practical wisdom and deep curiosity to this conversation. Rather than searching for grand solutions, she invites us to slow down, observe, listen, and rediscover the simple human capacities that make genuine collaboration possible.
Becoming the Way
In this conversation, Ross Hostetter brings a deeply contemplative and mystical perspective to the Third Attractor. Drawing on Christian mysticism, nondual spirituality, and decades of inner practice, he suggests that the Third Attractor is ultimately not an idea or a future system, but a living…
Birthing a Regenerative Society
Violeta Bulc spent years inside the machinery of governance, as Slovenia's EU Commissioner for transport and mobility, before turning to a sharper question: whether humanity can learn from the one system that has held balance over long stretches of time, which is nature itself.
Things will get Weirder
In this wide-ranging and deeply human conversation, Daniela speaks with Brendan Graham Dempsey about one of the defining questions of our time: Can we consciously co-create a "Third Attractor" beyond the twin futures of chaos and authoritarianism?
A Momentous Leap
In this rich and grounded conversation, Daniela speaks with Dr. Darrell Gooden, longtime Spiral Dynamics Integral practitioner, organizational transformation strategist, and student of Don Beck’s work.
Stream of Consciousness
In this rich and far-reaching conversation, Annick de Witt and Daniela Bomatter explore the cultural and worldview dimensions of the metacrisis, arguing that many of our current challenges stem from outdated ways of making sense of reality.
Spirit in Action
In this deeply spiritual and philosophically rich conversation, Brad Reynolds argues that the real Third Attractor is ultimately an awakening attractor: a movement toward higher states of consciousness capable of integrating chaos and authoritarianism into a deeper civilizational coherence.
The Politics of Waking up
In this profound and wide-ranging conversation, Indra Adnan challenges the urgency and crisis framing often surrounding the idea of the Third Attractor, suggesting instead that the current chaos may itself be part of a deeper evolutionary process rather than something to simply overcome.
Becoming New Humans, Together
In this rich and wide-ranging conversation, Samantha and Daniela explore the Third Attractor as an already-emerging field of coherence arising in response to both chaos and authoritarianism.
Education in Times of Change
In this conversation, Daniela Bomatter speaks with Dr. Brad Kershner about the challenge of creating cultures that can truly hold complexity without collapsing into simplistic solutions or rigid systems.
The Irresistible Future
In this conversation, Daniela Bomatter speaks with Trish Blain, a facilitator and community builder whose lifelong work centers on a model she calls the Four Forces: connection, expression, purpose, and growth.
Evolutions Purpose
In this conversation, Steve McIntosh engages from a firmly integral philosophy standpoint, and the exchange is in many ways a productive friction with the series framing itself.
Islands of Coherence
In this conversation, Aterah Nusrat makes the case that the third attractor is not a future possibility but something already present, visible in the growing network of "islands of coherence" where people are working, in different ways and from different starting points, toward a more integral way…
Returning to what is Real
Alexander Beiner is a filmmaker and writer whose documentary "Leviathan" Daniela reads as a portrait of why a fundamental transition is needed. The conversation opens with his central argument: that Western civilization has inverted its hierarchy of reality.
The Mental is only the Servant
In this rich conversation, Cordula and Daniela explore what a third attractor might actually feel like from the inside out. Cordula, author, deep ecology practitioner, and voice dialogue trainer, brings a perspective rooted in embodiment, sentient life, and the limits of the human-centered mind.
Coherence begins before the Meeting starts
Discover the transformative power of coherence and collective resonance in shaping the future of integral consciousness as the Third Attractor. In this insightful dialogue, Tom and Daniela explore how sustained intersubjective “we spaces,” rooted in deep listening, shared values, and authentic…
Birthing the Symbiotic Age
Understanding the third attractor provides a framework for navigating complex systems. Learn how this concept influences change. This conversation breaks down the third attractor, a key concept often used in systems thinking and complexity science.
We embody the wrong Story
Explore the concept of co-creating the third attractive in this conversation between Adrian and Daniela. Learn how to merge perspectives to build something new.
We need to think Seven Generations ahead
Explore the concept of the third attractor with Chris and discover how we can begin co-creating shared meaning through open dialogue. We examine what it means to foster a third attractor, moving beyond binary perspectives to find common ground in complex systems.
Designing the Future
Across the world, a new conversation is emerging—a conversation about the future of civilization itself. As our existing systems reach their limits, we face an urgent crossroads: one path leads toward collapse, another toward increasing control and centralization.
Impossible Experiences
Jeffrey Kripal joins the conversation as a historian of religions and self-described optimist, arguing that imagining a better future is itself a condition for building one.
The West lost something Essential
Understanding the third attractor requires a precise method for co-creation. Mary and Daniela break down the exact framework. What will it really take to co-create a future beyond today’s crises?
Rebuilding a regenerative Society
Across the world, a new conversation is emerging—a conversation about the future of civilization itself. As our existing systems reach their limits, we face an urgent crossroads: one path leads toward collapse, another toward increasing control and centralization.
Shared Responsibility in Action
Co-creating the third attractor is a collaborative design process that moves teams past standard goal setting. This conversation examines how to apply the third attractor framework to creative partnerships.
The Future is Remembered
What if the future isn’t waiting to be invented—but remembered? What if the Third Attractor already exists as a living possibility, waiting for us to bring it into the world?
Something must die for the Future to arrive
Explore the process of co-creating the third attractor in this virtual meeting. See how Catherine and Daniela navigate new ideas. This conversation focuses on the dynamics of collaborative design and the specific steps required when co-creating the third attractor.
Hacking Culture
This conversation was recorded in German and translated and dubbed by ChatGPT and CapCut. This time Daniela was invited by Daniel Melle to his Podcast to have a conversation about the Third Attractor.
Civilisational Awakening
Across the world, a new conversation is emerging—a conversation about the future of civilization itself. As our existing systems reach their limits, we face an urgent crossroads: one path leads toward collapse, another toward increasing control and centralization.
Human Potential
What if humanity is evolving toward a completely new level of consciousness? third attractor, conscious evolution, human potential, spirituality, and personal growth are powerful ideas shaping the future of humanity.
Navigating the Future with Zen
Learn what the third attractor means and how to apply this concept in your own collaborative efforts. Daniela and Diane explore the framework behind co-creating the third attractor.
We are not ready yet
In this conversation, I speak with Jon Eden Khan about what it would take to move humanity beyond today’s polarization and into what we call the Third Attractor.
Purpose designed Media
Across the world, a new conversation is emerging—a conversation about the future of civilization itself. As our existing systems reach their limits, we face an urgent crossroads: one path leads toward collapse, another toward increasing control and centralization.
A need for Metatheory
What if humanity is standing at a crossroads… and a completely new future is possible? third attractor, conscious evolution, human potential, and the future of humanity are powerful ideas shaping today’s conversations about philosophy, psychology, and personal transformation.
A Better Solution beats a Better Argument
Can a new civilization emerge before the old one collapses? What if the greatest challenge of our time isn’t a lack of solutions—but the absence of a shared worldview capable of holding them together?
Co-Creating the Future
Can humans, technology, and consciousness come together to create a new attractor? What does it mean to co-create the future, and how does the idea of the third attractor connect psychology, artificial intelligence, and human consciousness?
Civic Enlightenment
Can democracy evolve before it collapses? What if the future isn’t shaped by choosing between chaos and authoritarianism—but by learning how to build a new kind of civilization together?
Let's evolve, fast
Can humanity create a new civilization without first becoming new human beings? What if the future depends less on changing systems than on transforming ourselves?
Evolving beyond Individualism
Are we witnessing the end of a civilization—or the birth of a new one? What if today’s crises are not signs of failure, but the painful emergence of a new stage of human consciousness?
Creating Heaven on Earth
What if creating a better world doesn’t begin with politics or technology—but with three simple questions? What if Heaven on Earth isn’t a distant dream, but a responsibility waiting to be remembered?
Wise Cities
What if the Third Attractor isn’t something we create—but something that emerges through us? And what if the greatest obstacle isn’t the crises around us, but the subtle ways our own ego keeps recreating them?
Navigating the Great Transition
What if humanity isn’t heading toward a breakthrough—but toward collapse? And what if the future depends less on finding the perfect plan than on becoming the kind of people who can respond wisely to what is already unfolding?
Second Sapiens, Navigating the Great Shift
Join us as we dive into a conversation about "the third attractor," beginning with a fundamental question: are you familiar with the term? This discussion explores the essence of communication skills and how effective communication can help in understanding complex ideas.
Reality isn't observed, it is co-created
What if reality isn’t something we observe… but something we co-create? Welcome to the exciting launch of our new web series, 'The Third Attractor'! In this pilot episode, join us for the very first conversation as we kick off a series of insightful discussions.
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Art as a way of knowing. What images, music and making reach that argument cannot.
1 conversationThe long view. Metatheory, the structures of consciousness, the histories of mind — guests who go under the crisis rather than around it, asking what kind of awareness could even perceive a way through.
13 conversationsRepair, at the scale of land and living systems. Regeneration, ecology and our place inside the biosphere — from restoring degraded ground to reimagining what an economy is for.
10 conversationsChange that starts on the inside. These conversations hold that no policy, technology or institution outruns the consciousness that built it — and that presence, coherence and inner development are not a private matter but civilisational infrastructure.
15 conversationsFrameworks for navigating without a map. Models, stages and integral cartographies that make a chaotic transition legible enough to act in.
10 conversationsAlready building it. Practitioners running experiments ahead of the consensus — schools, cities, communities and ventures that treat the next civilisation as something to prototype, not await.
8 conversationsThe stories we live inside. Media, education, myth and culture — how a civilisation narrates itself, why the inherited story is failing, and what it takes to write another one.
9 conversationsThe machinery a different future would run on. Money, governance, policy and organisational form — practitioners redesigning the systems that currently make cooperation irrational.
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