About this conversation
Can a new civilization emerge before the old one collapses? What if the greatest challenge of our time isn’t a lack of solutions—but the absence of a shared worldview capable of holding them together?
In this far-reaching conversation, Robb Smith, founder of the Institute for Applied Metatheory, joins Daniela Bomatter to explore what it would take to co-create the Third Attractor.
Together they examine the metacrisis, Integral Theory, worldview evolution, metamodernism, transformative education, leadership, philanthropy, AI, identity, and the emergence of a new story of wholeness. Robb argues that humanity’s deepest challenges are rooted not primarily in technology or economics, but in the evolution of consciousness itself—and that a new integrative worldview can become a powerful attractor for cultural transformation.
They also explore awakening, purpose, agency, community, nonduality, and why the future depends on people who are willing to embody and lead from a more integrated consciousness.
A rich and inspiring conversation for everyone interested in the future of humanity, consciousness, and civilization.
