Trish BlainThe Irresistible Future - Creating the Third Attractor

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Trish Blain

The Irresistible Future

The Inner Workers

In this conversation, Daniela Bomatter speaks with Trish Blain, a facilitator and community builder whose lifelong work centers on a model she calls the Four Forces: connection, expression, purpose, and growth.

02:43 Meaning of third attractor 14:15 Inner development and spirit 22:34 Shared values and worldviews 25:37 Biggest obstacles 33:17 Co-created or emergent 38:45 Communities, prototypes, scaling 58:47 What must happen 59:09 Systems and governance 59:31 Hope and optimism 62:54 Closing reflections 64:39 Vision of the future world

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Trish Blaine is a facilitator, relational practitioner, and cultural innovator working at the intersection of consciousness, community, and collective intelligence. Her work explores how human beings can learn to meet one another with greater depth, honesty, and aliveness in a time of profound cultural transition. Drawing from years of experience in transformational practice, group facilitation, and emergent culture, she is particularly interested in the relational capacities needed for a more coherent and life-affirming future to emerge.

More about her here: https://nonordinary.com/meet-trish/

Trish also just launched a new platform which you can find here: https://aliveedges.com

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