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Bruce Alderman

A need for Metatheory

The Deep Divers

Is the Third Attractor something we steward rather than fix in place? We explore grief work, a possible strangeness attractor from AI and synthetic biology, generative enclosures, integral versus metamodernism, and schools built on living and learning.

00:56 Meaning of third attractor 03:00 Co-created or emergent 04:00 What must happen 09:03 Inner development and spirit 20:26 Stories, myth and art 20:48 Biggest obstacles 22:31 Role of AI 32:49 Systems and governance 39:30 Shared values and worldviews 57:43 Communities, prototypes, scaling 67:31 Education and next generations 71:36 Hope and optimism 77:06 Closing reflections

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Can a Third Attractor be co-created, or can it only be allowed to emerge?

In this conversation, Elizabeth Debold explores the qualities that may matter most in times like these: humility and availability. She traces how love has changed through history, from Christian agape to romantic love, and what that tells us about the further evolution of human relationship.

We talk about background practices that shape us without our noticing, and about “interbeing” groups whose way of being together can spread by contagion rather than persuasion. Elizabeth also speaks clearly about the risks of AI companions, and about education for the next generations.

A rich conversation about human potential, love, and what we allow to change us.

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The Earth Keepers The Pioneers

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