Tom Habib on Coherence and the We-Space

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Cordula Frei

The Mental is only the Servant

The Earth Keepers The Inner Workers

What if the Third Attractor asks us to step aside from the mental mind? We talk about being a process rather than the crown of evolution, embodiment and ritual, Gebser's integral consciousness, community with all living beings, and primordial trust amid collapse.

05:44 Meaning of third attractor 08:45 Vision of the future world 14:49 Co-created or emergent 22:34 Stories, myth and art 24:51 What must happen 41:25 Shared values and worldviews 45:07 Systems and governance 46:29 Biggest obstacles 52:14 Communities, prototypes, scaling 55:22 Inner development and spirit 63:58 Hope and optimism 66:20 Closing reflections

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Why individual awakening is not enough for our future. Tom Habib joins to discuss the necessity of the Third Attractor.

Tom Habib joins this conversation to discuss why personal development must expand into broader social and cultural evolution. We examine the limitations of focusing solely on individual awakening and why a shift toward collective awakening is essential for navigating the complexities of our time.

Grounded in integral theory, this dialogue explores how we can move beyond existing systemic structures by fostering authentic connection and shared values. We discuss the practical steps needed to foster systems change and build communities capable of sustaining a more coherent future together.

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