About this conversation
In this conversation, we examine how applying Spiral Dynamics and systems thinking can move us toward a more regenerative society. Chris shares his extensive experience in Holistic Management and ecological outcome verification, offering a grounded perspective on how we might transition from unsustainable industrial practices to a way of living that honors the full depth of our humanity.
We also discuss the practical application of integral frameworks in real-world environments, from rangelands to business leadership. By understanding the evolutionary stages of our collective development, we can begin to identify the structures that want to be born and participate in the co-creation of a more conscious, interconnected world. Whether you are interested in the mechanics of large-scale change or the personal capacity for deeper stewardship, this dialogue provides a framework for navigating the profound challenges of our time.





