About this conversation
Are we witnessing the end of a civilization—or the birth of a new one? What if today’s crises are not signs of failure, but the painful emergence of a new stage of human consciousness?
In this profound conversation, Rufus Pollock, founder of Life Itself and co-creator of the Second Renaissance initiative, joins Daniela Bomatter to explore the metacrisis, cultural evolution, consciousness, AI, community, and the possibility of a civilizational breakthrough.
Together they examine why our current crises are rooted in outdated worldviews rather than isolated problems, why inner transformation must accompany systemic change, and how “islands of coherence” and conscious communities could become the seeds of a new civilization.
Can humanity grow beyond individualism without sacrificing freedom? How do we cultivate the wisdom needed to meet the age of AI? And what might a genuine Third Attractor look like in practice?
A rich and thought-provoking conversation for everyone interested in the future of consciousness, culture, and civilization.





